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• (6/8/23) VFP-62 - Med Cruise 1958
  
  by Daryl Phillippi PH1 VFP-62: 1957-59

  
  

  During this pandemic I have found myself with a lot of time on my hands. In my younger years I shot a lot of films. In modern times it is so easy to convert to digital and edit them. Therefore I have put together a 10 1/2 minute video of the USS Saratoga and injected some shots of the VFP-62 detachment and ended with a lot of the crew and a video of a bunch of "kids" acting like kids at a beach party.--- Daryl Phillippi
  
  Webmaster: Click the link to see Daryl's ten minute video: USS Saratoga and VFP-62 Beach Party by Daryl Phillippi
  
  

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• (12/6/18)
  Cold War Soviet Pilots by Massive Intake of the MIG-21 Supersonic Fighter
  Photo: Sergey Isaev

  
  

  32 giap [Soviet Air Force Squadron] pilots in front of MiG-21F-13 interseptor, AF Kubinka near Moscow, 1961.
  In one year these pilots would fly their MiG-21 over Cuba. ---Sergey Isaev (Russia)

  
  

  [Webmaster: While writing Blue Moon Over Cuba: Aerial Reconnaissance during the Cuban Missile Crisis I fortunately found Sergey's book that captures the Soviet Air Force deployment to Cuba during the Cuban Missile Crisis. Sergey and I became cyber friends and he graciously gave permission for excerpts for our book. The MiG21 was perhaps more threatening to US pilots flying over Cuban than the surface to air missiles. In our book, I recount the one documented event when two MIG-21s chased two VFP-62 pilots. Go to our "Cuban Missile Crisis" page for more information on the Soviet experience and link to Sergey's book.]

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• (11/18/18)
  

  VFP-62 Veteran
  Guest Speaker for Young Patriots

  
  
  Robert King, VFP-62 aviation mechanic, has a desire to "bridge civilian understanding of military life." He says, "I teamed up with an active 18 yr. Army Sgt. and we led the school with the Pledge of Allegiance telecast live throughout all the classrooms. I talked to two classrooms of students and answered questions." Some questions he addressed:
  
  

  Q. What happens if you don't do what you are told to do?
  A. You are taught in early training (boot camp) that you do what you are told to do and you do it right then. That's the way it is and the way it has to be to make the military work.

  
  

  Q. What happens if if you don't behave over and over?
  A. You are sent to the brig, I explained that the Navy shaved the prisoner's head and would also parade them in our view for we would not get in trouble, an example of visual learning.
  

  
  

  Q. Did I go through any difficult or tough times? (Careful with an answer, I thought about the carrier flight deck.)
  A. There were some experiences that made me a stronger person. There is a quote: "Tough Times Don't Last, Tough People Do."

  
  When I got the signal from the teacher to finish up, I asked a question. What do we all have in common here? We are all PATRIOTS. You don't have to wear a uniform to be a PATRIOT.

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• (6/9/18):

  USS Shangri La CVA-38 Propellor

  
  

  I stopped in Medings Seafood on RT 1 (south to Rehoboth Beach) near MilFord, Delaware and found this relic from my first VFP-62 carrier detachment: USS Shangri La (1944-1971). I'm seeking more information on how it was obtained.---Ken Jack

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• Update 6/9/18): Unfortunately, the F8 Crusader Model #2 crashed during a flight demonstration. A new Model #3 is currently being built to replace it. Follow the project as more information comes in or via Facebook DCModels page.

  
  (4/26/18)
  
  
  
  
  
  

  We've been following on Facebook the construction of a large scale F8 Crusader model by Dave Hudson of DCModels. Facebook DCModels . Also there, The model's Maiden Flight --Video shot from a drone. Facebook account needed.
  
  For more information this site: CLICK to see: RF8 Models .

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• (12/21/17)
  Photo by Larry Plourde VFP-62 PH2
  
  
  Vietnam Memorial via George Montgomery and Bruce Beeston @ Facebook

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• (11/29/17)
  
  

  The U.S. Naval Academy unveiled new football uniforms Monday
  inspired by the Blue Angel flight demonstration squadron for next week's Army-Navy game.

  
  

  This year's Navy players will wear blue jerseys with yellow stripes similar to the flight suits worn by the pilots assigned to the Blue Angel squadron. Players will wear the Blue Angel insignia on their right sleeve and a U.S. flag on their left sleeve similar to the pilots' flight suits.
  
  Army and Navy's football teams will play on Dec. 9 at 3 p.m. at Lincoln Financial Field in Philadelphia in the 118th meeting between the two service academies.





• Update (12/28/17): Excellent Patriotic Advertisement Honoring Military Academies--contributed by Greg Engler

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• (10/12/17)
  
  RF-8G Model of VFP-62's Vietnam Detachment
  Fatal Loss Off Coast of North Vietnam
  
  

  "I was Norm Bundy's [fighter]escort the day (on September 6, 1966) he was lost. I Built this model of Norm's aircraft."---(then) LT. Phil Tremmel VF-14

  
  
  

  
  
  Model of LT Tremmel's F-4 Phantom II
  
  
  
  VFP-62 RF-8G Aboard USS Franklin D. Roosevelt (CVA-42) circa Sept. 6, 1966

  
  

  [Webmaster's Note: CLICK for more information on -- VFP-62's Vietnam Detachment...AND... on--- RF-8 Models ]

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• (10/20/17) Don't know if you heard that the bell from the USS Shangri La (CVA-38) which has been missing since it was scraped, turned up recently in a farmer's field in Florida. It has been restored and on display at Mayport. Contributed by John Sees

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• (9/14/7):
  

  PBS Vietnam War Documentary by Ken Burns
  Can be streamed on PBS.org

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• (3/21/18)
  

  
  National Naval Aviation Museum NAS Pensacola, Florida

  
  
  The world-famous Blue Angels are based at NAS Pensacola, and can be seen practicing over the Museum at NAS Pensacola select days throughout the year. Practice times vary so check the schedule above prior to planning your visit. Practices last about 55 minutes, and admission to is FREE and open to the public.* The outside viewing area for the Blue Angels practice is located on the Museum Flight Line north of the Museum. Signs are posted to direct visitors to viewing and parking locations, including limited parking for handicapped visitors. Open bleacher seating is available for seating 1,000 people. Chair service is provided at each practice session, a limited quantity of chairs are available for a fee of $3 per chair good for that day’s practice session. Concessions (bottled water, sport drinks, light food and treats) and merchandise are also available. Chair service, concessions and merchandise are provided by the Naval Aviation Museum Foundation and proceeds support the Museum and Foundation programs.
  
  We recommend visitors use sun protection. Hearing protection is recommended for those people with sensitive hearing.
  
  100% ID check for all visitors 16 years old and over to access the museum flight line to view Blue Angel practice.
  
  Please note that backpacks, daypacks, luggage, or similar items are NOT allowed on the flight line during Blue Angel practice air shows. Small purses, bags containing medications, and diaper bags are allowed, but are subject to search by Naval Air Station Pensacola Security personnel.

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  50-year memorial of the July 29, 1967 flight deck fire (134 fatalities)

  Report for USS FORRESTAL 2017 Reunion in Northern Virginia
  July 24th through July 29th
  by Thomas Pinkley

  
  
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• (1/24/17) A good video of: McDonnell F2H-2P photo Banshee ---This video shows construction details, flight scenes, and good orientation of VFP-62's first photo jet.--Courtesy Ken Killmeyer, CVA 59 Historian

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• (12/26/16)

  Greg Engler VFP-62 AT2 tours USS George Washington CVN73

  
  

  Guess who was able to tour the USS George Washington a couple weeks ago for his 75th birthday. He also got to the bridge and sat in the Captains seat. A member of the US House of Representatives made the arrangements as a surprise for his birthday.
  
  

  
  
  Top Row (L-R): Greg, family and guides; In Captains Chair; Going aboard
  Bottom (L-R) Touring bridge; Congressional Recognition; painting George Washington

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• (11/28/16)
  

  Boeing will complete the F/A-18s modernization at Naval Air Station (NAS) Cecil Field near Jacksonville, Fla.

  
  The U.S. Marine Corps (USMC) is facing a critical shortage of operational fighters. In fact the Marine Corps aviation is pushing the so-called “C+ Program” a plan that will see Boeing taking 30 retired F/A-18C Hornets and upgrade them to the most state-of-the-art platform, creating the F/A-18C+ to maintain the combat ready status of its aged fleet of F/A-18 Hornets until the F-35 Lightning II is fielded in numbers.---via "The Aviation Geek Club" on Facebook
  
  [Webmaster: Looks like our hangar 67 to me.]

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• (12/22/14):Hello, During the Bay of Pigs I was an air traffic controller on the USS Independence. Do you have any photos of the Gray Ghost F8U-1P aircraft?
  
  Thanks,
  Nick Santarone
  
  [Webmaster's Note: See Frank Schrader's story of the "Gray Ghosts" (VFP-62 RF-8s with all American identification removed) during the Bay of Pigs Invasion, April 1961. You can read this excellent tale on our "Cuban Missile Crisis" page. Responses can be sent to me via link on this page.]

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  Does anyone know anything more about this TF-9J?
  
  (9/7/16) I was instructing in VT-25 when the F9 incident took place. My best recollection of the accident: The student pilot did catch a wire but had a severe right to left approach. After going over the side he was still at full power. The LSO finally radioed the pilot to shut down. After shutting down the student jumped into the water. I don't know how he was picked up. There was no equipment on the ship able to pull the plane back aboard so the arresting gear cable was cut and the plane was lost. The student went out the next day and finished his carrier qualification.
  
  Lt. Cdr Tom Larson, VFP-62 pilot
  
  (3/30/15): Re the TF-9J "hanging over the side to dry out," it was BuNo 142979, from Chase Field, TX-based VT-25 "Cougars," which missed all arresting wires when trying to recover aboard Lexington, 24 May 1966. Pilot could be rescued, unhurt, fortunately. Fair winds & following seas,
  
  -- Fabio Peña
  Manager, Aircraft Carrier & Escort Carrier Archives
  NavSource (http://www.navsource.org)
  
  (11/10/13):From Air Force Col. TD:
  Ok you Navy Pukes... we now know why your planes are so clean (we thought you just didn't use them!).
  
  Air Force Pilots Always Wondered:
  Q - Why do Navy airplanes need tail hooks?
  A - After a tough day of flying on an aircraft carrier the planes are always washed and they use the hooks to hang the planes over the side to dry out.

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• (8/14/13)My name is Harley Willis, my dad was CW2 Delbert "Corky" Willis. John Starky was in my parents wedding in 1958 or 59. My dad was killed in 1968. I live in Pensacola and my mom was wondering what came of John. Any info you could share would be appreciated. They were in London together in the early 60's.
  
  Harley Willis
  205-514-9356
  [email protected]
  
  [Webmaster's Note: It is likely these men were photomates but not in VFP-62]
  
  Update (1/8/16)In the note from Harley Willis you mentioned the Del Willis and myself had not been in VFP`62. You didn't go back far enough . We both were in VFP-62 in 1956 -1957-1958. We were there with Banshee,Cougars and the F8U-1P. We were on the line and the photo lab at Jax. Keep up the good work on the site. I caught up with Harley here in P-Cola. Sincerely yours , John Starkey, PH1 USN Ret .




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• (8/7/13): I was wondering how I would go about finding an old Navy Buddy from VFP-62? His name is D.L. Young or Daniel L. Young. I remember while we were in VFP-62 he got accepted in an officer training program. That was approximately in 1960 give or take a year. Is there some way to track him down? He would be about 73 years old give or take a year or so. He was an AT3 or AT2 at the time. Can't remember for sure. Can you help me track him down or point me in the right direction to do it myself??
  
  Thanks....Tim Webb, VFP-62, Discharged in July 1962 from VFP-62, Age 73.
  [Webmaster: Tim's email is on Page 2 Guest Log or contact me.]




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• (1/27/13):I am hoping you can provide some information on my father, Harry G. Barnes, Jr. USN. He was involved as a pilot in the Cuban Missile Crisis. He was killed in an F-8 crash in 1969, and my mother remembers very few details of his involvement. I am hoping I can find out more to pass on the stories to his grandchildren. My Mom mentioned a nickname of "Piper Cub Killer" one time, but now doesn't recall that.
  
  Any information would be helpful.
  
  Regards,
  Elaine Barnes
  [email protected]
  
  [Webmaster: This pilot was probably in a fighter squadron during the Cuban crisis.]

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  Response: (7/3/13): Greg Engler investigated this request and sought help from a U.K. site dedicated to ejections from all types of a/c ( www.ejection-history.org.uk . In particular the following link has the ejection of Elaine's father: Cdr. Barnes' fatal crash March 18, 1969 - Squadron VC-4 Wow. I will send more when I find it but looking through the links definitely hit me. My Dad's crash was the one on March 28, 1969 and VC-4 was his squadron. Hit me really hard when I saw that. You guys are great. I'll be in touch with more details and images that might help. I really appreciate everything.
  
  Regards and Happy 4th,
  Elaine
  




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  (1/27/13): Greg Engler came across this insignia from a photomate who was in Guantanamo Cuba in the mid 1940's. Does anyone know anything about it?

  
  

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  (12/1/12) Ken,
  I recently received a photo of one of VFP-62's aircraft. There is a dog, maybe a pointer type painted on the aircraft. What is the significance of dog? Do you have any idea of the timefame of this photo?
  
  Thank you,
  Ken Killmeyer
  Forrestal Assn. Historian
  

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  Response (12/4/14): Hi Ken, The bird dog was painted on the sides of RF8-As assigned to USS Enterprise (CVAN-65) VFP-62 Det-65 during the "Second White Fleet" Med and Round-the-World Show-the-Flag Cruise. I made the Med portion and then went back to the states in late August to exit the Navy. The ship soon after left the Med and returned to CONUS by heading eastward, stopping I believe only at Karachi and Sydney. The fleet was comprised of three nuclear-powered ships, Enterprise and a destroyer and a cruiser. I believe the name of the cruiser was Bainbridge. Don't recall the name of the destroyer. No doubt this information can be verified by an online search. Tom Larson was a shipmate on that Det-65 cruise and continued round-the-world with the Enterprise. Fran Klinker was O-in-C and Ron Datka was the other pilot, as I recall. --Rod Rogers, VFP-62 pilot.
  

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  Respose (12/4/14): The dog originated with us while on the Sea Orbit cruise. I checked in a scrapbook that Eldora put together. (what a Gal) In one of the CAG newsletters in September, someone commented they thought they trapped a Greyhound bus. I left for NAS Beeville shortly after our return, so don't know if the dog made another cruise or not. Tom Larson VFP-62 pilot
  
  [Webmaster: The "Greyhound" insignia probably represented speed, which the RF-8 Crusader was known for during those days. The fact that this picture shows it was attached to the Forrestal means that it was deployed to it after the Enterprise world cruise.]

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• (4/21/11):Looking back at old stuff and trying to find who has a 1958-59 FDR cruise book? Can you help John Dwyer
  
  Mail response to Webmaster





(1/15/11):

I would like to know if anyone remembers a time in the Mediterranean (circa 1958-59) where 20 aircraft were airborne and trying to land on the USS Intrepid during rough seas. Three aircraft crash landed on the Intrepid before the others were diverted to Majorka (Mallorca or Mellorca??) a Spanish Island State. There the aircraft, all emergency landed safe and spent the night. The Intrepid pilots ate spaghetti with the Spanish Captain and crew. 2 members of VFP-62 took turns staying with their planes outside at the end of the short runway that night because the Cougars were full of important exposed film.

Daniel Lynn (son of Lt.Robert Lynn)





• (1/17/11):Do you remember LCDR Clinker falling into the sea while trying to come aboard from a liberty launch boat late one night? I remember sometimes you had to jump from the rocking boat to the ship, it was tricky when the "sea was angry with us". Might make a story for the website section, Sea Stories?
  
  I remember you guys throwing some good parties for us and once we went out on a rented sail boat around some islands. I remember the water being so clear when you jumped in, was that around Malta? We were part of a good Team. I really learned Teamwork through my Navy (flight deck) experience.
  
  Robert King
  
  

  • Response #1 (1/27/11): The party robert king talked about was held off Palma-Mojorca. It was a large Yacht we rented for the day. We pulled up near a beach and all jumped in and swam to shore. What a great time, this was on det65 med cruise. Bill Hearn AMS-3
  • Response #2 (1/30/11): I remember that. It was a yacht that Ron Datka got for us. I think the owner was an American guy. I was one of three guys that swam to shore. There were two french girls on this spit or sand bar and we got so engrossed that the boat left us. The boat finally came back after they realize we were'nt aboard. Finally, something I "can" remember.--Robert Strong

[Webmaster's Note: Remember to notify the Webmaster if your email address changes.]

(8/22/16)From Bill Newby PHCM: Pentagon Opens Online Shopping to Honarably Discharged Vets in 2017--via Military.com

(8/13/16)Note from Webmaster: Due to family issues, I haven't updated the site since June. I'm back and have posted some intresting material. Normally, I leave "Latest Site Updates" to cover the new topics on the site, but here is a short list:

• A wonderful auto-biography of a VFP-62 squadron mate detailing his exceptional life experiences. Check it out on "Sea Stories" Page 6.
• Greg Engler's links of the photo Crusader (see Mail Call above)

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(5/13/16)Important Announcement for National Naval Aviation Museum Pensacola Visitors
In order to align NAS Pensacola with security directives issued by the Secretary of the Navy, the air station commanding officer has directed that beginning February 1, 2016, all visitors to the National Naval Aviation Museum, Fort Barrancas and Pensacola Lighthouse who do not possess a Department of Defense identification card or are unescorted by the holder of a Department of Defense identification card, will be required to enter the installation via the West Gate located off Blue Angel Parkway. Click here: For Directions

Click to read: Aviation Museum One of the Best in the U.S.

(8/22/16)Hanger Bay One Temporarily Closed for Maintenance Hangar Bay One is temporarily closed due to maintenance. We apologize for any inconvenience. The time frame for reopening has yet to be determined, but we will be sure and update the status on our website and social media.[Webmaster: Hangar Bay One is where our restored RF-8G is displayed.]

A new page, linked from "We Love Crusaders" has been constructed to document the restoration. A direct link is: The Restoration of RF8 Bu No. 145609

• (2/4/26)Lt. Cdr Tad Riley writes: "The local high school AF ROTC is interviewing several of us "old crocks" here at this retirement community. Most are WW II types, although they are getting scarce. Anyway, the whole package will be bundled up and sent to the history section of the Library of Congress. This is the first run that will be cleaned up before it's sent.
  
  To see this 25 minute video, Click: Tad Riley YouTube Interview
  
  [Webmaster: Tad was one of the six VFP-62 pilots who flew the first low-level photo mission over Cuba's missile sites during the Cuban Missile Crisis. In this interview, Tad covers some material he provided for our book "Blue Moon Over Cuba: Aerial Reconnaissance during the Cuban Missile Crisis."]

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• (1/7/16)

  

  
  
  From VFP-62 Cdr. Norm Green (right in picture): On Saturday, 12 Dec, our local chapter of the Combat Veterans Motorcycle Association, chapter 20-3, joined hundreds of volunteers at the Barrancas National Cemetery to place Christmas wreaths on the graves of veterans and families. Some of the wreaths had been purchased by our group to be placed at the graves of family and friends; there were also hundreds of wreaths donated by various civic and patriotic organizations which we assisted in placing on grave sites. After we were done, we wandered about the older section of the cemetery soaking up the natural beauty of a place that we revere when we came upon a marker that we did not know existed. Pausing to reflect on it's significance, we made sure that it was adorned with a Christmas wreath and a silent- "Thank you, Sir, for serving".
  
  Norm adds: Perhaps this will spread across the nation and further strengthen next year's "Wreaths Across America" campaign.

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(1/2/16) Contributed by Bill Newby NAVAL AVIATION MUSEUM
Upgrades mean era of film is over at IMAX
Theater temporarily closes as it converts to digital
MARKETTA DAVIS
[email protected]
The IMAX Theatre system at the National Naval Aviation Museum has passed 2.5 billion frames of film through its projector since 1996 - a total of 120,000 miles of film. That's enough to go around the Earth's equator nearly 4 1/2 times.

Upward of 3.5 million people enjoyed more than 48,000 shows on film at the theater. "The Magic of Flight" played for the last time Thursday on a 250-pound, 70-millimeter roll of film.

The theater will close for two months while undergoing an extensive renovation, its first major upgrade in 20 years, which will include a conversion from film to digital with a premium laser-illuminated 2D projection system and full 4K resolution. The screen will be the first of its kind in an institutional theater in the world, ending the era of film at the Aviation Museum. "For years, this was the most elite type of film projection in the world," said Phillip Crabtree, operations manager of visitor attractions at the museum. "It was the only way to get super-large, giant- screen images on a big screen, clear and focused."

When the IMAX film projection system was installed 19 years ago, it was the only one south of Atlanta and anywhere along the Gulf Coast for more than two years. It was installed before IMAX Theatres in New Orleans, Mobile, Birmingham and Tallahassee, Crabtree said. There were only about 200 in the world at that time.

The transition from film to digital is expected to last through March. In addition to a new movie system, the theater will also feature LED lighting, wider seating with armrests, double-cup holders and custom tables between most seats, new carpeting and more.

(12/6/15)We stopped by [Cecil Field] a couple weeks ago to drop off some picture to go into the picture book that we left with the capsule. The base is quite a bit busier will all the planes that came over from NAS [Jacksonville]. Even some jet trainers, so the roar of jet engines can be heard more frequently. And there are quite a few more planes there especially the big multi-engine types.

We went to the old theater where the capsule is and apparently no one has visited it as the sign in book we left didn't have any more names added. Either no one has stopped by the base or they don't know the capsule is there..... Or both. It would be nice if we had a sign somewhere prominent that people could see as they come on the base that mentions the capsule and its location.

Did I tell you that the original barracks were torn down and rebuilt? Then with the base closure the new barracks were demolished.

Greg Engler

[Webmaster: If you make a trip to Cecil, go to the old base theater building to see the VFP-62 time capsule that Greg found. More information on "Bulletin Board Archives" and "VFP-62 Memorabilia."]

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• (10/21/15)An interesting article: Have Guns Will Dogfight--Air & Space Smithsonian magazine

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• (12/7/15):

  

  
  From Owen Miller at Battleship Memorial Park Mobile AL.---New display of A12 spy plane (predessor of the SR-71 Blackbird) and Spanish tourists(couple on left) and BMP restorer of 913 Mike Thompson on right) look at VFP-62 historical display beside restored RF-8 913.

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• (11/20/15)I was with VFP 63, 1976-1980 NAS Miramar AE2. Do you have a web address for VFP 63 you could send my way. Spent many hours on your site tonight, thanks for the memories.
  Andy Simons
  
  [Webmaster: VFP-63 does not have a website but does have a Facebook page: VFP-63 NAS Miramar]

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• (7/15/15)
  What's Left of USS Forrestal CV-59 circa July 2015
  via Facebook USS Forrestal Group

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• (12/15/15) Nice website on the F-8 Crusader.
  
  Here's a short documentary on one pilots ejection, capture, escape and rescue. This incident included an audio of radio transmissions captured by the USS Gridley and given to the pilot after the incident
  
  Dennis deFreitas
  
  Video and audio chronicles the: Vietnam Ejection and Recovery
  
  [Webmaster: This link will be placed on our "Vietnam Operations" page under "War Stories." ]

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• (7/15/15) Congress has approved the creation of a veterans' identification card, making it easier for veterans to prove military service without having to produce a military service record or some other valuable document. Currently, individuals needing to prove military status routinely have to provide a DD-214, a Certificate of Release or Discharge from Active Duty, to prove their status, said Vietnam-era veteran Donald DiNunzio of Florida. A number of states, and even counties, will issue veterans ID cards. Among the states that do so are Connecticut, Pennsylvania, Texas, North Carolina, Virginia and Michigan, which retailers and restaurants will accept when offering veterans' discounts, according to The American Legion.

• UPDATE (5/31/15)

  MISSION ACCOMPLISHED

  Attended: L to R - Harrison Conyers - Veteran and Community Outreach Manager, Jack Banning VT Group, Cdr. Norm Green VFP-62 pilot, Gary Sutton VT Group, Greg Engler AT2 VFP-62, Robann Koenig, Jimmy Koenig, James Jelsma, Jeannie Engler took pictures as she did at digs
  The VFP-62 Time Capsule was handed over to the authorities at the Jacksonville Aviation Complex (former Cecil Field) on May 29, 2015 and will be placed in a display at the VT Group offices located adjacent to the MIA/POW memorial. The building is the old theater where we had the reunion. James Jelsma will send pictures when its all complete. He is making the entryway area for VFP-62 so that when you come in the door there you will see the capsule, contents, the book Blue Moon Over Cuba, the VFP-62 Cuban Missile Crisis squadron binder and a bunch of really nice pictures that are printing.
  
  From everything James said he was going to do I believe its going to be quite an impressive display. The conference room is used quite a bit so it seems there will be a lot of traffic. We also left a guest book for guests and visitors to sign. We all did this morning. If anyone visits and would like to see it, all they have to do is go across the street to the VT Groups offices and ask. They are in the old chapel. --- Greg Engler
  
  (L-R) The entrance to the conference center (former movie theater); the display case; outside of conference center
  

  VFP-62 Time Capsule to Return Home to Cecil Field
  For Public Display of Navy Memorablia

  
  
  

  (L-R): Time capsule (showing damage and corrosion); Stencil showing VFP-62's establishment ("JAN 1949"); Stencil showing VFP-62's disestablishment ("5 JAN 68") (5/14/15)[Webmaster: Greg Engler, former VFP-62 AT2, made it his mission to find and recover the VFP-62 Time Capsule buried at a ceremony commemorating the disestablishment of VFP-62 on January 5, 1968. That story, with photos, is linked from "VFP-62 Memorabilia - Time Capsule" Photos of the return to Cecil Field will be added to that page as they arrive.]
  
  From Greg Engler:
  
  Some good news. I have made arrangements with VT Group at Cecil Field (They were instrumental to the capsule being found by doing the bush hogging and other things for us. They are housed in the old chapel next to the memorial.) to house the time capsule and the remains of the contents at the old movie theater building.
  
  The capsule was finally cleaned up last week by a scrubbing with a metal scrub brush, soap and water. A lot of material flaked off during this cleaning. In places the capsule is heavily pitted. I discovered that there were dates stenciled on the cover, the dates the squadron was activated and the date it was disestablished.
  
  The capsule represents what is left of the fabled squadron and its former members and should hold an important place in history for many. It belongs back at the former base, not here at my home in a storage building.
  
  

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(4/20/15)

The 2000 Movie: "Thirteen Days" starring Kevin Costner






"Going Feet Wet" Movie Storyboard Donated to Battleship Memorial Park, Mobile Alabama




This excellent print of the movie storyboard was presented by the movie producers to Lt. Dave Johnson (VF-13) for his technical contribution to the real and animated VFP-62 flight scenes in the movie. After many years hanging on his wall, Dave decided to send it to me. I decided the best place for it was in the showcases beside our RF-8 on exhibit at Battleship Memorial Park. I made the proposal to Director Bill Tunnell and he approved it for display.



In response Mr. Tunnel wrote: "What a wonderful way to start a raining Thursday in Mobile with the offer of a beautiful work of art that will look fantastic besides the RF-8!!

We would be honored to receive and display 'Going Feet Wet' in the Pavilion.

My hope is that all of you VFP-62 guys who were here that day in 2008 will come back for another reunion or visit. I remember it like it was yesterday since it rained so hard you could hardly hear in the building. [During the dedication ceremony noise from the torrential rain hitting the metal roof of the hangar drowned out the guest speakers.]

I thoroughly enjoyed reading your book. I have since placed it in our Ship's Library so one day, when someone looks for information on the Cuban Missile Crisis, yours will be a great resource.

I remember that time vividly as a Junior in High School in South Alabama. Such a fear that missiles could come our way. Thank God for you guys!!"

The artwork illustrates Capt William B. Ecker and Lt. Bruce Wilhelmy exiting Cuba on their first mission over the nuclear missle sites on October 23, 1962.



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• (6/5/15)

  

  New Article by Ken Jack
  National Naval Aviation Museum's Foundation Magazine --Spring 2015

  
  Click to read (9 MB Adobe .pdf format file): The Amazing Aviation Story of VFP-62's Rick Maioriello---And, the story of the restoration of his F9F-8P

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  Dismantling of the USS Forrestal

  
  

  (12/18/14): Some sad photos of the scrapping of USS Forrestal. Other photos are on the "USS Forrestal Ceremonies and Information" page, linked below. More photos are on the USS Forrestal Facebook page.

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• (11/23/14): While looking through new (Jan '15) Smithsonian Air & Space magazine pg 16 is an article about VF-74 pilot John Newline aboard Forrestal Mar '66 being on "Bear Watch" while transiting from Gib to Norfolk. Top of second column covers A/C launched to intercept Soviet A/C, includes mention of VFP-62 photo A/C among others. Article then goes on to describe events of intercept.
  
  Reminded me of a similar experience a year earlier (Mar '65) on our return transit. Had a "Bear Alert" launch with a sea state of long deep swells causing much pitching to the flight deck. Our RF8 photo bird got aboard, I recall after a few bolters due to deck conditions. The VF-74 F4, also after several bolters made for the deck as it was rising and made a very hard landing breaking the wing spar and put the A/C on it's belly. The hook caught, crash crew got foam on it, got crew out ok, no serious fire. I watched the latter part of this from "Vultures Row" including the eventual landings and crash of the F4. Tom Pinkley.
  
  [Webmaster: The Russians are today testing NATO & US defenses. Click to read the article: Air & Space Magazine Article ]

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VC-62 - VFP-62 Commemorative Brick (8" x 8")

Made possible by the contributions of:
Robert King ADJ3 (1963-65),

[Webmaster's Note: With the publication of our book, Blue Moon Over Cuba: Aerial Reconnaissance during the Cuban Missile Crisis, in August 1962, a few squadron members ordered signed copies from me and three remitted much more money than I asked for (a total of $273.00). They left it to me to spend it as I thought best. Initially, I thought I would use it to extend our hosting service for vfp62.com, but Pete Wallace (who has been paying for it from the start) had already extended it to 2022. So, vfp62.com will be on the web for some time. I also considered buying a round of drinks at a future VFP-62 reunion but it appears that may not happen again. I decided to use the money to support the National Naval Aviation Museum fundraiser "Bricks Program." These special bricks will be installed in the center of Centennial Square on the manicured Museum grounds (Pensacola, Florida). Over 1,200 bricks have been purchased to support the important work of the museum.

To see all NNAM Commemorative Bricks go to: Brick Paver Index--- Our Brick is on Page 25. To order a personal brick: Secure Online Brick Order]

• (10/13/14)--USS Enterprise donates anchor to USS Lincoln CVN-72---Jim Trenoskie

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• (4/28/14): Heads Up for 2015: Trailer video for upcoming Vietnam Documentary "Welcome Home"--This is a trailer from a documentary that is supposed to air next year--40 years after the fall of Saigon.
  
  "Welcome Home" is a new series being produced by Sleeping Dog Productions, Inc. It tells the story of Viet Nam Veterans, from all branches of the service. It is scheduled for release in 2015, the 40th anniversary year of the end of the War. It is a thank you -- and a welcome home that is long, long, overdue.--Contributed by Ernie Halley

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• (12/1/14)Thanksgiving Day 1962
  
  "Bless us O Lord, and these Thy gifts, which we are about to receive from Thy bounty, through Christ our Lord. Amen." (Roman Catholic)
  
  "Bless O Lord, this food to our use to Thy service, and make us ever mindful of the needs of others. In Jesus' name. Amen." (Protestant)
  
  "Blessed art Thou, O Lord our God, King of the Universe, who bringeth forth bread from the earth, Amen. " (Jewish)
  
  Thanksgiving Day Menu
  
  Chilled Tomato Cocktail Saltines Split Pea Soup
  Roast Young Turkey Corn Bread Dressing Baked Kentucky Ham
  Whipped Irish Potatoes Giblet Gravy Candied Sweet Potatoes
  Buttered Green Peas Tossed Green Salad Waldorf Salad Buttered Corn
  Blue Cheese Dressing Hot Parker House Rolls Nut Dressing
  Chilled Cranberry Sauce Sesame Seed Rolls Sliced Pickles
  Stuffed Olives Butter Patties Ripe Olives
  Pumpkin Pie Whipped Cream Mince Meat Pie
  Coffee Chilled Fresh Fruit Bar Milk
  Hard Soft Center Candies Salted Nuts
  Cigarettes Cigars
  
  [Webmaster: This walk down memory lane provided by Ken Killmeyer, Forrestal Assn. historian. This was my last VFP-62 detachment (1962-63) and will be posted to our detachment newsletters on "VFP-62 Memorabilia." I always enjoyed Navy food.]

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• (7/31/14): [Webmaster's Note: In addition to the commemorative brick shown above, here is another idea from John Sees for other memorials.]
  
  ALL:
  Just Passing along some info which I ran across and have utilized myself and I thought you all might like to be aware of. In brief, for a $50.00 donation an American flag will be flown from the flag staff onboard the USS Nautilus on any day you choose and will then be sent to you folded with a certificate. If you are in need of a replacement American flag for your home this might be the better way than trying to find one made in America at that local Home Depot. I have purchased several for myself and my children and had them put up in the triangular shadow box normally available.
  
  I have attached a copy of the brochure for your perusal and convenience. Having been up to the Nautilus on several occasions I am happy to support the efforts. Since the Nautilus is still part of the Navy and has a small crew the flags are raised by a real sailor.
  
  Best to all from sunny Florida.
  John d

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• (8/10/14) Click to see: Photos of Forrestal's Dismantaling--Somewhat painful photos showing the progress of the scrapping of USS Forrestal.---via USS Forrestal CVA/CV/AVT-59 Association Inc.---Jim Brussell Sec/Treasurer

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• (8/3/14):
  The restoration of the XF8U-1 (the Cusader prototype) is almost complete. It will be taken to the Historic Flight Museum Paine Field August 30th, for the Vintage Aircraft weekend.
  
  Also, there are plans to take her to Paul Allen's Flying Heritage Museum,for display later.
  
  The XF8U-1 will stay on display at the Museum of Flight Restoration Center for now. Plans are to take her to other Museums for special events.
  
  For more information see "We Love Crusaders"

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• (9/7/14) Link for information on CVA-65 inactivation: USS Enterprise Goes Dark--The work to scrap the first nuclear carrier

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• Updated:(8/24/14)
  

  Like Forrestal, USS Saratoga CVA-60 to be Scrapped

  
  Updated:(9/20/14)
  

  For former Sara sailors, she has arrived at her final port visit,
  raise a glass to the old girl--that's what is left of the Forrestal beside her----Norm Green

  
  Fox News on Scrapping of USS Saratoga--Via Bill Newby and Jim Whalen
  
  Update (8/24/14) Sara Departing Newport ---via Adam Miklovis
  

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  F9F-8P Gets Restored
  Rick Maioriello second from right.
  See Information below for Det 45-58's page this site.
  (1/25/14): Hello,
  
  I'm the M.A.P.S. Crew Chief on Rick Maioriello's F9F-8P.
  
  We are refurbishing Rick's aircraft - I want to be as historically accurate as possible. Can you tell me if Rick's aircraft had the "Mr. Magoo" painted on the nose? What colors were used? What was the significance of the Nose art? One picture shows a Maltese cross, and another shows a clover leaf on the side of the Mr. Magoo's helmet. What did Rick's aircraft have?
  
  Do you have any other pictures of the aircraft that would show the vertical stabilizer paint scheme? Appears to have orange or red chevrons down the leading edge of the fin??
  
  Thank you for any help you can offer. I've been unable to connect with Rick.
  
  Matt Oltersdorf
  MAPS F9F-8P Crew Chief
  [email protected]
  




[Webmaster's Note: The above email was received 11/27/13. I passed it on to VFP-62 pilot Rick Maioriello for help (see below). Click to see: M.A.P.'s Air Museum website ]



(1/25/14): Hi Matt, Ken referred your questions back to me. The near-sighted Magoo was part of the detachment patch and was only painted on the aircraft when we departed the ship back to the States. Berkey had the Maltese cross, Bezore had the shamrock and I had nothing additional.

There were # red chevrons on the stabilizer. On http://www.vfp62.com/Det_45_58.html are pictures of the squadron and detachment patches. I would like them both painted somewhere on the aircraft.

Thanx again
Rick

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[Webmaster's Note: To see Det 45-58's page, go to "VFP-62 Memorabilia."]
(1/28/14)Click to see: Restoration Photos of F9F-8P

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Email Response: Ken - Yes...What great photos. I have been checking out your web site a couple of times each week, there's always some excellent information added on. The photos of the restoration at M.A.P.S. makes me wonder if the Estrella Museum in Paso Robles, California will mark Cougar 144388 up as they received her or will they mark her possibly as a VFP-63 bird...Time will tell. Thanks again Ken..........Leon Cleaver

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[Webmaster's Note: This story will give you goose-bumps.---Contributed by Ernie Halley]

After signing my pop, Electrician's Mate Second Class Bud Cloud (circa Pearl Harbor) up for hospice care, the consolation prize I'd given him (for agreeing it was OK to die) was a trip to "visit the Navy in San Diego."

I emailed my friend and former Marine sergeant, Mrs. Mandy McCammon, who's currently serving as a Navy Public Affairs Officer, at midnight on 28 May. I asked Mandy if she had enough pull on any of the bases in San Diego to get me access for the day so I could give Bud, who served on USS Dewey (DD-349), a windshield tour.

The next day she sent me an email from the current USS Dewey (DDG 105)'s XO, CDR Mikael Rockstad, inviting us down to the ship two days later.

We linked up with Mandy outside Naval Base San Diego and carpooled to the pier where we were greeted by CMDCM Joe Grgetich and a squad-sized group of Sailors.

Bud started to cry before the doors of the van opened. He'd been oohing and pointing at the cyclic rate as we approached the pier, but when we slowed down and Mandy said, "They're all here for you, Bud," he was overwhelmed.

After we were all out of the van directly in front of the Dewey, shaking hands and exchanging pleasantries, Petty Officer Simon introduced himself and said as the ship's Sailor of the Year he had the honor of pushing Bud's wheelchair for the day. Unbeknownst to us, they'd decided to host Bud aboard the Dewey, not at the Dewey.

And so they carried him aboard. None of us expected him to go aboard the ship. I'd told him we were going down to the base and would have the chance to meet and greet a few of the Sailors from the new Dewey. He was ecstatic. The day before, he asked every few hours if we were "still going down to visit the boys from the Dewey," and "do they know I was on the Dewey, too?"

Once aboard, we were greeted by the CO, CDR Jake Douglas, the XO and a reinforced platoon-sized group of Sailors. To say it was overwhelming is an understatement. These men and women waited in line to introduce themselves to Bud. They shook his hand, asked for photos with him, and swapped stories. It was simply amazing.

They didn't just talk to him, they listened.

Bud's voice was little more than a weak whisper at this point and he'd tell a story and then GMC Eisman or GSCS Why not would repeat it so all of the Sailors on deck could hear. In the midst of the conversations, Petty Officer Flores broke contact with the group.

Bud was telling a story and CMDCM Grgetich was repeating the details when Flores walked back into view holding a huge photo of the original USS Dewey. That moment was priceless. Bud stopped mid-sentence and yelled, "There she is!" They patiently stood there holding the photo while he told them about her armament, described the way it listed after it was hit, and shared other details about the attacks on Pearl Harbor.

Bud finally admitted how tired he was after more than an hour on deck. While they were finishing up goodbyes and taking last minute photographs, GMC Eisman asked if it'd be OK to bring Sailors up to visit Bud in a few months after a Chief's board. I hadn't said it yet because I didn't want it to dampen the spirit of the day, but I quietly explained to GMC Eisman the reason we'd asked for the visit was simple: Bud was dying.

I told him they were welcome to come up any time they wanted, but I suspected Bud had about a month left to live. Almost without hesitation, he asked if the crew could provide the burial honors when the time came. I assured him that'd be an honor we'd welcome.

Leaving the ship was possibly more emotional than boarding.

They piped him ashore. CMDCM Grgetich leaned in and quietly told me how significant that honor was and who it's usually reserved for as we headed towards the gangplank.

Hearing "Electrician's Mate Second Class William Bud Cloud, Pearl Harbor Survivor, departing" announced over the 1MC (the ship's PA System) was surreal.

Later that night Bud sat in his recliner, hands full of ship's coins and declared, "I don't care what you do with my power tools; you better promise you'll bury me with these."

He died 13 days later. For 12 of those 13 days he talked about the Dewey, her Sailors and his visit to San Diego. Everyone who came to the house had to hear the story, see the photos, hold the coins, read the plaques.

True to his word, GMC Eisman arranged the details for a full honors burial. The ceremony was simple yet magnificent. And a perfect sendoff for an ornery old guy who never, ever stopped being proud to be a Sailor. After the funeral, the Sailors came back to the house for the reception and spent an hour with the family. This may seem like a small detail, but it's another example of them going above and beyond the call of duty, and it meant more to the family than I can explain.

There are more photos, and I'm sure I missed a detail, or a name. What I didn't miss and will never forget, is how unbelievable the men and women of the USS Dewey were. They opened their ship and their hearts and quite literally made a dream come true for a dying Sailor.

They provided the backdrop for "This is the best day of my life, daughter. I never in my whole life dreamed I'd step foot on the Dewey again or shake the hand of a real life Sailor."

Without question, it's the best example of Semper Fidelis I've ever seen.

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(11/11/13): Memorial to UTA DC 10 Amazing memorial to the 170 killed by Libyan terrorists' bomb Sept. 19, 1989.---Contributed by Ernie Halley

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(11/3/13): Although I've never flown a plane in my life, I'm a great fan of those guys who have, in combat and recon I never tire of their stories of "wearing" a jet fighter and high speed recon. You guys rock. I have nothing but the highest respect for the men, machines and maintence guys of the greatest most powerful Navy to ever rule the seas. Whether the war was hot or cold you hung it out for us and it's never to late to say, Thank You.

Just a "swabby" on the deck back in '69-'71. Julian Boone, Quincy IL




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(10/24/13)


Lambeau Field (9/16/13)
Click on photos to enlarge

Those who attended the game said it was extremely emotional to see the entire bowl of the stadium turn red, white and blue. It took 90 workers two weeks to get all of the colored card boards mounted under each seat. Each piece of card board had eye slits in them so the fans could hold up the colored sheet and still see through the eye slits. Every seat had to have the proper card, with no mistakes, to make this happen.

This is what ESPN failed to show you. Apparently, they thought their commercials were more important than showing this scene for about 5 seconds.---Contributed by Howard Lewis




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• (7/1/13):[Webmaster's Note: I frequently get emails such as this. While he was not a squadron member, this is a very touching request for a tribute to a Forrestal shipmate. I passed this on to the Forrestal Association and they are going to do an obituary on their next newsletter. The mother responded with great relief and gratitude that her son will be remembered by his shipmates. I thought you would be interested in reading it.]
  
  "My son served on the Forrestal. He was in the shipyard in Philly and then 2 deployments to the Med. It was the happiest time of his life and he never stopped talking about how wonderful it was. He was stationed in Mayport and I had the opportunity to visit and tour the ship myself. My son was a part of the deck crew and piloted the small boats. His name was Edward Gibson and he passed away on March 29, 2013. I would love his name posted if it is possible."
  
  Thank you,
  Sincerely,
  Marylu Gibson (his Mom)
  
  [Update (7/3/13): The Forrestal Assn. is going to post his obituary in its next newsletter. His mother responded to this news: Ken, Thanks so much for this.....he wore his Forrestal hat proudly everywhere he went, this was truly the best time of his life. He is missed and will be in our hearts forever..but his service on this ship was the highlight of his life. He was so sad to see that it was not being preserved or sunk, as it should have been, so many memories. Thanks to all who still serve our country, my youngest son included {even if it is Army}. With my heartfelt gratitude.]

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Most Recent Addition to Davis Monthan (Bone Yard)





(11/10/13) F-117 Stealth Fighter

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(7/25/13): Ken,

Here is an update in regards to the 2 VFP-62 F9F-8P Cougars previously mentioned on the "Bulletin Board Archives:" F9F-8P Bu No. 144388 which was purchased by Steve Penning of Windsor, California, and subsequently shipped to Santa Rosa, California, has now been transferred to the Estrella Aviation Museum of Paso Robles, California. It is in the process of a restoration for static display.

F9F-6P Bu. No. 128298, also purchased by Steve, was restored in northern Ohio until sold to Bob Wynn of Foley, Alabama during mid-2011. Bob is working on a cosmetic restoration for an at-home display. Both aircraft had VFP-62 markings when sold.

It is nice to see these historic aircraft being brought back to a respectable representation.
Leon Cleaver, Vermilion, Ohio.

[Webmaster's Note: Go to "Bulletin Board Archives to see the photos of the F9F's mentioned above.]

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(3/8/13)Click here to: Replace Lost Medals and : A Second Source" --I had a request from a pilot who lost a medal and Bill Newby, always ready to help provided these.

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(3/8/13) Gerald Musgrove provides: Online Cruise Books --organized by ship and date of cruise.

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(11/21/12): Greg Engler, Robert Strong and others, including squadron VFA-106 are working on creating a museum at former NAS Cecil Field. This could be a place where our VFP-62 Time Capsule could be located and is in the early stages of development and updates will be provided via this page. Anyone desiring to help can contact Greg at his email address from the "Guest Log" or contact me via the webmaster link this page.




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12/11/11: I don't know if I have been living in a time warp or under a rock? I found out something at a local Veteran's Day ceremony yesterday that I'd like to share with all military veterans.

A provision of the 2009 Defense Authorization Act changes federal law to allow U.S. veterans and military personnel not in uniform to render the military hand-salute when the national anthem is played. The new law took effect on October 14.

This change adds to a provision which was passed in the 2008 Defense Bill, which authorized veterans and military personnel in civilian close to render the military salute during the raising, lowering or passing of the flag.

WE CAN SALUTE THE FLAG AGAIN! Active duty military and military veterans in civilian clothes are now authorized to render to hand salute to the American Flag as they always did when wearing the uniform.

Click for more information: Saluting the Flag Change

I saluted the flag yesterday for the first time since I put away my uniform in 1989 and IT FELT GREAT!

I am pretty sure that I am not the only veteran who did not know the recent changes to the U.S. Flag Code. If you think that other vets also don't know of this change please post it in the VFP-62 Newsletter.

Dick Crowe

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